Westboro Baptist church protester....
Anyone with any sense of decency (yes, I'm even including my decadent, deviant self) is repelled by the sensationalization and wrongness of the protesting at funerals by the splinter group that are the Fred Phelps Church brood.
Lots of us biker groups have gotten together to nonviolently shield innocent and grieving families from the repulsive actions of these misguided souls, under the banner of the Patriot Guard.
Now, it seems the message is getting heard at the legislative level, the " Rest in Peace " Act would impose time and distance limits on protesters at funerals.
The "problem" with this law is that if it's deemed content specific, it would come under intense scrutiny for being unconstitutional. Hows that for hiding behind the same government and laws they're protesting??
I believe we should form a " Westboro Church" protest group, and follow members around 24/7 with signs, chanting, and denouncements as they go about their daily lives. I think they'd get the picture that harassment is not OK once they have to walk a mile.
Here's a blurb from the Chicago Tribune....
'Rest in peace' law would ban funeral protests
By Charles Sheehan
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 10, 2006, 2:58 PM CST
Fueled by revulsion over a religious group's demonstrations targeting the families and funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, legislation will be introduced in the next month that would make such protests illegal in Illinois, officials said today.
The Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., has picketed scores of funerals for soldiers, including at least six in Illinois, Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn said at a downtown Chicago news conference announcing the bill.
Legislation sponsored by Rep. Brandon Phelps (D-Norris City) would keep protesters 300 feet away from funerals and memorial services for 30 minutes before and afterward.
At least four other states are pursuing similar laws banning such protests.
Kansas already has a law in place, and today a legislative panel in Indiana endorsed a bill that would make disorderly conduct a felony if it occurs within 500 feet of funerals or memorial services.
The bill was also formed in response to a protest by members of the church who dragged U.S. flags on the ground and hurled insults at the family of Army Staff Sgt. Jeremy Doyle, an Indianapolis native killed in Iraq.
The laws raise sticky constitutional questions that legal experts say are likely to reach into the highest levels of the U.S. judicial system.
Though the proposed "Let Them Rest in Peace Act" in Illinois does not mention the Westboro church by name, Quinn acknowledges protests by the followers of Pastor Fred Phelps were the catalyst.
Phelps' family has also targeted the funerals of gays, and on Sunday, the group plans to picket a memorial service for the 12 West Virginia miners who died in an accident last week.
The Westboro Baptist Church, which is made up mostly of people related to Phelps, say the U.S. is doomed because it condones homosexuality, said Shirley Phelps-Roper, Phelps' daughter and an attorney for the church.
The explosives that kill American soldiers are a manifestation of God's wrath against the country, as was the mine blast, she said.
"This is a nation of idolatry that is run rampant with adultery and fornication," Phelps-Roper said.
The church has vowed to challenge any legislation that it believes infringes on First Amendment rights protecting religion and free speech.
Battle lines over state legislation will likely be drawn on whether such laws are "content-based or content-neutral," said David Hudson L. Hudson Jr., a research attorney for the First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University.
If a law is considered to be content-based, meaning that the law favors one opinion over another, it is subject to the highest form of judicial review, he said.
"Strict scrutiny leaves few survivors, and since these laws seem to be targeting a particular subject matter, they seem to be content specific," Hudson said. "The kicker is that even if something is content-based, it doesn't necessarily mean it's unconstitutional, it just means the government has to advance a government-based interest in a very narrow way."
Phelps-Roper said she would contest any law that is passed in Illinois or elsewhere that restricts the movement of the church.
csheehan@tribune.com
Anyone with any sense of decency (yes, I'm even including my decadent, deviant self) is repelled by the sensationalization and wrongness of the protesting at funerals by the splinter group that are the Fred Phelps Church brood.
Lots of us biker groups have gotten together to nonviolently shield innocent and grieving families from the repulsive actions of these misguided souls, under the banner of the Patriot Guard.
Now, it seems the message is getting heard at the legislative level, the " Rest in Peace " Act would impose time and distance limits on protesters at funerals.
The "problem" with this law is that if it's deemed content specific, it would come under intense scrutiny for being unconstitutional. Hows that for hiding behind the same government and laws they're protesting??
I believe we should form a " Westboro Church" protest group, and follow members around 24/7 with signs, chanting, and denouncements as they go about their daily lives. I think they'd get the picture that harassment is not OK once they have to walk a mile.
Here's a blurb from the Chicago Tribune....
'Rest in peace' law would ban funeral protests
By Charles Sheehan
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 10, 2006, 2:58 PM CST
Fueled by revulsion over a religious group's demonstrations targeting the families and funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, legislation will be introduced in the next month that would make such protests illegal in Illinois, officials said today.
The Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., has picketed scores of funerals for soldiers, including at least six in Illinois, Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn said at a downtown Chicago news conference announcing the bill.
Legislation sponsored by Rep. Brandon Phelps (D-Norris City) would keep protesters 300 feet away from funerals and memorial services for 30 minutes before and afterward.
At least four other states are pursuing similar laws banning such protests.
Kansas already has a law in place, and today a legislative panel in Indiana endorsed a bill that would make disorderly conduct a felony if it occurs within 500 feet of funerals or memorial services.
The bill was also formed in response to a protest by members of the church who dragged U.S. flags on the ground and hurled insults at the family of Army Staff Sgt. Jeremy Doyle, an Indianapolis native killed in Iraq.
The laws raise sticky constitutional questions that legal experts say are likely to reach into the highest levels of the U.S. judicial system.
Though the proposed "Let Them Rest in Peace Act" in Illinois does not mention the Westboro church by name, Quinn acknowledges protests by the followers of Pastor Fred Phelps were the catalyst.
Phelps' family has also targeted the funerals of gays, and on Sunday, the group plans to picket a memorial service for the 12 West Virginia miners who died in an accident last week.
The Westboro Baptist Church, which is made up mostly of people related to Phelps, say the U.S. is doomed because it condones homosexuality, said Shirley Phelps-Roper, Phelps' daughter and an attorney for the church.
The explosives that kill American soldiers are a manifestation of God's wrath against the country, as was the mine blast, she said.
"This is a nation of idolatry that is run rampant with adultery and fornication," Phelps-Roper said.
The church has vowed to challenge any legislation that it believes infringes on First Amendment rights protecting religion and free speech.
Battle lines over state legislation will likely be drawn on whether such laws are "content-based or content-neutral," said David Hudson L. Hudson Jr., a research attorney for the First Amendment Center at Vanderbilt University.
If a law is considered to be content-based, meaning that the law favors one opinion over another, it is subject to the highest form of judicial review, he said.
"Strict scrutiny leaves few survivors, and since these laws seem to be targeting a particular subject matter, they seem to be content specific," Hudson said. "The kicker is that even if something is content-based, it doesn't necessarily mean it's unconstitutional, it just means the government has to advance a government-based interest in a very narrow way."
Phelps-Roper said she would contest any law that is passed in Illinois or elsewhere that restricts the movement of the church.
csheehan@tribune.com
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